Penzey's Spices Hates Gun Owners And Their Business  

New2Midlo 52M  
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11/24/2021 2:13 pm

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Penzey's Spices Hates Gun Owners And Their Business


If you're a cooking enthusiast, you're probably familiar with Penzey's Spices. Because of their high quality, they've been my exclusive go for such things for over two decades. That is until the owner of the company, Bill Penzey, essentially told me he doesn't want further business from me or anyone else in the firearm community. This began with one of his recent newsletters, which as usual, contained a mix of ' this shit' and social commentary. He tends lean the left, but his rhetoric has been mostly innocuous; not that I opened many of them. However, when a recent newsletter titled "Guns Are Dumb" my inbox, you know damned well I opened . I've pasted the commentary portion of the newsletter at the bottom, but the TL;DR is hunters and law enforcement should guns. Others aren't responsible enough them and should rely on their kitchen cutlery for personal defense.

The dude signs his newsletters, with his address, so I sent him a note indicating how I thought he was being condescending and that I found his views both uninformed and frankly asinine. Bill reads his and responded less than 20 minutes later doubling down on one of his talking points as well as being an even greater ass hat. Copy paste:

Responsible Gun owner is an oxymoron and NRA propaganda. is nothing responsible about bringing an item into your home that will increase the chance of violent death for you and your family members five-fold. But you are indeed free to invent absurd realities where your gun makes you that special hero. Pew-pew.

I believe what he was trying to convey was "I'm an even greater ass hat than you thought and don't want any business from the firearms community or anyone else recognizes how much of a douche I am. Can you please spread that for me?"

Yes sir! I've already started taking care of that for you because I aim (no pun intended) please.
Fucking dickhead. I was initially going stop buying from this douche, but now all his shit's going in the trash. My entire spice collection, which is not .

The Newsletter
And guns are dumb. Yes, hunting, and ranching, and law enforcement, but even then are substantial risks. But owning a gun as though is some sort of safety accessory is stupid. ’s like spending hundreds of dollars add a self-destruct button to your life. At any moment, all takes is one pull of the trigger, and just like that all the goodness in your life can be gone, never return. Guns are dumb.

We should all feel safe, and as humans, long before we had cooking we had weapons. But if you ever need a weapon, just around you, they are everywhere. These days the kitchen of every American home rivals the arsenal of a good-sized medieval village. And even needs the pointy things when you cast iron? But guns are different. They try sell you on the idea that guns give you control, yet with one pull of the trigger whatever happens next will forever be in someone else€™s hands.
With yesterday€™s verdict in Kenosha were many headlines. Some spoke of freedom, and self-defense, and innocence, but once you pull the trigger is no going back what you were before. is no return innocence. Bring a gun into your home and ’s far less likely take the life of a stranger in self-defense than is kill someone you love through accident, suicide, or your anger. A lot of the time someone wanting own a gun is a pretty good sign that they€™re the kind of person shouldn€™t one. Guns are dumb.
I know that for many of you yesterday€™s verdict and the joy sent through the pro-gun crowd brought a sense of goodness slipping away. I get that. For me, in times like these I find cooking brings perspective. Once I came see cooking as what is, an act of kindness, the news lost much of its power bring me down.
Even though the news presents itself as having its finger on the pulse of where we are at, it in reality shows more than the couple dozen most out of the ordinary events that took place in the past day. Much of the news is horribly unkind. But to see cooking as kindness is to understand that for each and every event horrible enough to make the national news are hundreds of thousands of acts of kindness happening in kitchens all across the country every day. Even on the worst of days is so much more goodness. Please try see if you can.
If you are a hunter or if your job requires a gun, sure. But if you a gun out of a sense of safety get rid of asap. is nothing more than a self-destruct button for the goodness in your life and in the lives of those you love. Guns are dumb.

New2Midlo 52M  
1064 posts
11/24/2021 2:15 pm

Way to alienate a not insignificant group that spends money.


pagancountrygirl 64F
6399 posts
11/24/2021 3:55 pm

I've never heard of Penzey's Spices. I looked up their website and browsed through some of the spices. Rather expensive. Some of the pepper I like using would cost me a fortune as much as I use. We have a rather nice spice shop in Oklahoma City that carries a very large selection of very nice spices and blends that are a bit more reasonable. I've never asked them about their personal beliefs about gun ownership so that's never been an issue. Since I'm a gun owner and have no plans for getting rid of my guns, I'll probably never do any business with Penzey's. I'm sure the small amount of money I would possibly spend with them will never be missed, but if other gun owners take their business elsewhere, it could add up over time.

Pagan
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New2Midlo replies on 11/25/2021 9:34 am:
That's my intention - to ensure as many gun owners are aware of both his stance on guns as well as him being a douche canoe. SOB deserves to lose money over this and didn't seem to care when informed his words had been broadcast.

winchest34 60M  
2 posts
11/24/2021 4:03 pm

Wow, imagine the nerve of that guy having an opinion, backed by readily available statistics, and then publicly expressing it. That's reserved only for the far-right and the NRA.

Any response will be unread and deleted.


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:02 pm:
He had one stat and it was inflated 2.5x.
That being said, this was more about the owner of the company doubling down on his bullshit.

steel_rye 58M  
1 post
11/24/2021 4:05 pm

like it. I'd have done the same.


New2Midlo replies on 11/25/2021 9:35 am:
Thanks. I don't get on my 2A soapbox frequently, but when you insult me, I'm firing all my weapons. Figuratively, of course.

clydeno777 59M
2 posts
11/24/2021 4:06 pm

The guy's an asshat


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:43 pm:
Yeah, and I have to look at his name on EVERY damned spice in my cabinet, as I prep for tomorrow. Shit's getting out of this house pronto.

mufdiver69er2 61M  
1906 posts
11/24/2021 4:40 pm

hmmm...wonder what the ceo of mccormicks philosophy is....

woop woop


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:42 pm:
You'll never find out because he's smart enough to keep his damned mouth shut.

LadiesR2B1rst 58M  
2364 posts
11/24/2021 4:55 pm

Thanks for posting. Around here it's amo that's hard to find .


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:42 pm:
Don't get me started on ammo. My only saving grace is reloading my own.

New2Midlo 52M  
1064 posts
11/24/2021 5:48 pm

WTF is up with the damned formatting??? Fucking site sucks.

If you're a cooking enthusiast, you're probably familiar with Penzey's Spices. Because of their high quality, they've been my exclusive go to for such things for over two decades. That is until the owner of the company, Bill Penzey, essentially told me he doesn't want further business from me or anyone else in the firearm community. This began with one of his recent newsletters, which as usual, contained a mix of 'buy this shit' and social commentary. He tends to lean to the left, but his rhetoric has been mostly innocuous; not that I opened many of them. However, when a recent newsletter titled "Guns Are Dumb" hit my inbox, you know damned well I opened it. I've pasted the commentary portion of the newsletter at the bottom, but the TL;DR is only hunters and law enforcement should have guns. Others aren't responsible enough to have them and should rely on their kitchen cutlery for defense.

The dude signs his newsletters, with his email address, so I sent him a note indicating how I thought he was being condescending and that I found his views both uninformed and frankly asinine. Bill reads his email and responded less than 20 minutes later doubling down on one of his talking points as well as being an even greater ass hat. Copy paste:

“Responsible Gun owner” is an oxymoron and NRA propaganda. There is nothing responsible about bringing an item into your home that will increase the chance of violent death for you and your family members five-fold. But you are indeed free to invent absurd realities where your gun makes you that special hero. Pew-pew.

I believe what he was trying to convey was "I'm an even greater ass hat than you thought and don't want any business from the firearms community or anyone else who recognizes how much of a douche I am. Can you please spread that message for me?"

Yes sir! I've already started taking care of that for you because I aim (no pun intended) to please.
Fucking dickhead.

The Newsletter
And guns are dumb. Yes, hunting, and ranching, and law enforcement, but even then there are substantial risks. But owning a gun as though it is some sort of safety accessory is stupid. It’s like spending hundreds of dollars to add a self-destruct button to your life. At any moment, all it takes is one pull of the trigger, and just like that all the goodness in your life can be gone, never to return. Guns are dumb.

We should all feel safe, and as humans, long before we had cooking we had weapons. But if you ever need a weapon, just look around you, they are everywhere. These days the kitchen of every American home rivals the arsenal of a good-sized medieval village. And who even needs the pointy things when you have cast iron? But guns are different. They try to sell you on the idea that guns give you control, yet with one pull of the trigger whatever happens next will forever be in someone else’s hands.
With yesterday’s verdict in Kenosha there were many headlines. Some spoke of freedom, and self-defense, and innocence, but once you pull the trigger there is no going back to what you were before. There is no return to innocence. Bring a gun into your home and it’s far less likely to take the life of a stranger in self-defense than it is to kill someone you love through accident, suicide, or your anger. A lot of the time someone wanting to own a gun is a pretty good sign that they’re the kind of person who shouldn’t have one. Guns are dumb.
I know that for many of you yesterday’s verdict and the joy it sent through the pro-gun crowd brought a sense of goodness slipping away. I get that. For me, in times like these I find cooking brings perspective. Once I came to see cooking as what it is, an act of kindness, the news lost much of its power to bring me down.
Even though the news presents itself as having its finger on the pulse of where we are at, it in reality shows little more than the couple dozen most out of the ordinary events that took place in the past day. Much of the news is horribly unkind. But to see cooking as kindness is to understand that for each and every event horrible enough to make the national news there are hundreds of thousands of acts of kindness happening in kitchens all across the country every day. Even on the worst of days there is so much more goodness. Please try to see it if you can.
If you are a hunter or if your job requires a gun, sure. But if you have a gun out of a sense of safety get rid of it asap. It is nothing more than a self-destruct button for the goodness in your life and in the lives of those you love. Guns are dumb.


TicklePlease 54F  
13828 posts
11/24/2021 6:17 pm

I've never heard of them but now I feel like I should check them out. Thanks.


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:37 pm:
If you want to buy from a guy who's an ass to his customers, go right ahead.

staci_19702 51T  
3400 posts
11/24/2021 6:30 pm

Buy McCormicks. Their spices are the best. Especially the GrillMates additions.
I think this guys newsletter is absurd. I keep my political views to myself. But my last blog shows it all. Not says it all. Like I said, I keep certain things to myself. Wonder what his opinion of a cross dressing, grill master and 2nd amendment believer would be.
I applaud you for telling him your thoughts. Not many would. We have to have a voice.
I love this post. Thank you for sharing.
Strangely enough, 90% of the spice buyers that I know are red meat eaters. Most are hunters with supportive wives or husbands. Maybe life is just different out here in the sticks.
Thanks again!

Have a great day! 💋
Staci


New2Midlo replies on 11/24/2021 7:41 pm:
Penzey's blows McCormicks out of the water. I bought cinnamon at the store, not remembering I had a bag of Penzey's in reserve. Opened both at the same time and the McCormick's had almost no aroma, whereas the Penzey's smelled like CINNAMON. That's what pisses me off about this; his stuff is damned good. Although, I've been pointed in the direction of Spice House, which apparently is owned by the Penzey family that got tire of Bill's shit.

lonlyforlove2 79M  
30454 posts
11/24/2021 6:57 pm

Just make room for more McCormick in your pantry. I have used it since dirt was discovered!!! Good, inexpensive and plentiful. No use in messing with what works..

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positively4you 72F  
4573 posts
11/24/2021 7:00 pm

Dear Mr Penzey, Thanks for the reminder to add to shopping list…..oregano, garlic, ammo.
And a new holster for concealed.🙋‍♀️


New2Midlo replies on 11/25/2021 9:37 am:
Funny you mention concealed carry. Was in the local store a month or so ago and there was a 'no gun' symbol sign on the door. I mumbled 'fuck 'em' and went in anyway, 45 in my IWB holster.

jajo696 67F
4166 posts
11/25/2021 1:18 am

blended spices from pakistan n india are my go to's. ive boycotted a few outfits due to their politics. The smart ones keep the views/opinions close to the chest ~


New2Midlo replies on 11/25/2021 9:38 am:
A friend of mine gets some of hers from a local ethnic market; high quality and cheap. Unfortunately, that's not an option for things like sage and vanilla.

spunkycumfun 61M/66F  
40582 posts
11/25/2021 5:00 am

I'm pleased that we have stricter gun controls here in Britain. When in America it used to freak me out that the American I'm talking to may have a gun concealed on his body!


New2Midlo replies on 11/25/2021 9:41 am:
All in the culture you're raised in. Those of us who carry concealed view a handgun as tool to be used, if needed. Come to Kansas where the person you're talking can be all but guaranteed to be packing.

jajo696 67F
4166 posts
11/25/2021 12:03 pm

Interesting....ask your friend to ask her market to locate the sage n vanilla ( and whatever else). Those Indian and Paki markets have it all. Some ive never heard of, but they will explain the hows n wheres of it. Soooo fragrant too. I love just browsing thru their markets~


New2Midlo replies on 11/27/2021 7:39 am:
To clarify, my friend is an ex who's back in Richmond, so not much oppty there.

pagancountrygirl 64F
6399 posts
11/25/2021 4:34 pm

Try savoryspiceshop.com. It's definitely not McCormick's spices.

Pagan
Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!


New2Midlo replies on 11/27/2021 7:39 am:
Thanks pagancountrygirl. I'll check them out.

exsquid46 62M
625 posts
11/27/2021 12:45 am

Mr. New2Midlo,

As someone who has been around guns his entire life and owned guns since he was legally allowed to, I find that the statement from the companies owned absurd. If he thinks that owning firearms for over 60 years is likely to cause harm, he needs to do better research. A firearm is nothing more than a tool, just like a knife. It is the person using it that is dangerous.

To date not one single firearm that I have been around has jumped up and shot someone or accidentally discharged.

I guess I have been lucky and owned dumb firearms that don't know how to shoot on their own.


pagancountrygirl 64F
6399 posts
11/27/2021 7:54 am

    Quoting exsquid46:
    Mr. New2Midlo,

    As someone who has been around guns his entire life and owned guns since he was legally allowed to, I find that the statement from the companies owned absurd. If he thinks that owning firearms for over 60 years is likely to cause harm, he needs to do better research. A firearm is nothing more than a tool, just like a knife. It is the person using it that is dangerous.

    To date not one single firearm that I have been around has jumped up and shot someone or accidentally discharged.

    I guess I have been lucky and owned dumb firearms that don't know how to shoot on their own.
That seems to prove Mr. Penzey has a good point. Guns are dumb.
I've owned guns for 40 years and never, in all that time, have any of them done anything on their own.
As exsquid46 said, it's the person using the gun that is dangerous.

Pagan
Hmmmm....I know I left that wand around here somewhere!


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